Atlassino Academy · Craps · Lesson 7
Place bets and their payouts
The dealer pays a place bet at a different figure on each number. Here is how the payout is counted, and what each number costs.
You hand the dealer 10 units and ask for the 6. The next roll is a 6. How much does the dealer pay you?
The short answer
11 units. The dealer pays a place bet on the 6 at 11 to 10, and the dealer adds that to the bet. Every place number is paid at a figure of its own, and the figures do not line up with the prices: the 5 and the 9 cost the smallest share of the bet, 4.00%, the 6 and the 8 cost 4.55% and the 4 and the 10 cost 6.67%.
The bet, times the figure for its number, makes the payout.
Leoformer dealer · rules and maths
A dealer paying place bets pays every unit on a number at the same figure. Learn the three figures, and you can check every place payout at the table before the next roll.
What the figures do not tell you is what each number costs, and the 6 and the 8 are where the figure and the cost part company.
The six numbers and what each one pays
A place bet is a bet that one number — the 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 — comes before a 7. Each of the six numbers has a box of its own across the layout, and each pair of numbers is paid at a figure of its own.
The 6 and the 8 roll the most often of the six numbers and are paid the smallest figure; the 4 and the 10 roll the least often and are paid the biggest.
A place bet is not a bet you put down yourself. The Buenos Aires Province rule book lets a player bet by himself only on Buena, Mala, Resultado, No resultado and the field; every other bet goes through the dealers, so you hand the chips to the dealer and name the number.
| Numbers | Paid |
|---|---|
| The 6 and the 8 | 11 to 10 |
| The 5 and the 9 | 7 to 5 |
| The 4 and the 10 | 9 to 5 |
Not every source agrees on the 6 and the 8: a Mendoza information page puts them at seven to six, not at 11 to 10. Both rule books print 11 to 10, and that is the figure used on this page.
How the dealer counts a payout
The dealer pays the bet at the figure for its number: 11 to 10 on the 6 and the 8, 7 to 5 on the 5 and the 9, 9 to 5 on the 4 and the 10. The examples below use amounts at which the payout comes out in whole units, which is a choice of this page: no rule book we read asks for it.
| Example bet | On the | Figure for the number | The payout |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 units | 6 | 11 to 10 | 11 units |
| 30 units | 8 | 11 to 10 | 33 units |
| 10 units | 5 | 7 to 5 | 14 units |
| 25 units | 9 | 7 to 5 | 35 units |
| 10 units | 4 | 9 to 5 | 18 units |
| 20 units | 10 | 9 to 5 | 36 units |
Every amount in the table is an example, not a suggested bet. Amounts are in betting units, not pesos: a unit can stand for any amount, and the arithmetic is the same at any scale.
Off on the come-out roll
A place bet works only once a point is marked. On the come-out roll, the roll that opens each round, every place bet on the layout is off: a 7 does not take a place bet, and a place bet's own number does not pay it. A player can ask for the bet to be turned on.
- A 7every place bet stays up; nothing is taken
- The number a place bet sits onnothing is paid, and that number becomes the point
- A 7the dealer takes every place bet
- The number a place bet sits onthe dealer pays that bet at the figure for its number
Three prices for one kind of bet
Every place number is paid a little less than the true odds against that number coming before a 7, and the gap between the two is the price of the bet. At these figures the gap is smallest on the 5 and the 9, where 7 to 5 falls short of 3 to 2, and largest on the 4 and the 10. The 6 and the 8 sit between them: 11 to 10 falls further short of 6 to 5 than the 5 and the 9 do, so the size of the figure alone does not tell the price.
The question asked most often at the 6: place the 6, or make a come bet and take odds behind it? A come bet costs 1.41% of the bet each time the bet is settled, the same as the pass line. Odds behind a come bet are paid at the true odds and add nothing to that price.
With odds up to the size of the come bet, the come bet and the odds together come out at 0.848% of everything put down. That share looks like about a fifth of the place bet's 4.55%, but the share is taken over a bigger total: for 10 units on each, the come bet costs about a third of what the place 6 costs.
- 10 units on place 6about 0.45 units on average each time the bet is settledabout 45.45 units over a hundred settlements
- A 10 units come bet, with odds up to the size of the come bet behind itabout 0.14 units on average each time the bet is settledabout 14.14 units over a hundred settlements
The come bet is cheaper in units; the place bet is easier to make, one word to the dealer, while a come bet goes wherever the dice send it (lesson 5.5).
Mayaformer floor supervisor · manners, money and breaks
Every number you place is one more bet in play at once: count the chips in the boxes against the money you set aside for the evening.
Decide before the first roll how much the evening gets and how long it lasts, and stop when either one runs out. Placing more numbers to get back what a 7 just took only buys more of the same price. If the money on the table starts to feel like money you need, the lines below are there for exactly that.
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Practice: pay the place bet
Here you stand where the dealer stands. The place bets are already in their boxes, the dice have landed, and the job is to say what the roll pays out. The bets are made in amounts that pay out in whole units, with a 7 after a point and the come-out roll mixed in.
Nothing is bet here, and nothing is random. Each roll is a set picture of bets and dice, and the answer is worked out from the same payout figures as the rest of this page.
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Level 1 · The dealer’s count
Point marked on the 9
You are the dealer. What do you pay out on this roll? Count the payout only, not the bet itself.
- 12 units That pays the 6 at the true odds, 6 to 5. True odds are what the odds bet behind a line bet is paid; a place bet on the 6 is paid 11 to 10.
- 14 units That is the payout for the 10 units on the 5. The dice show 6, and the bet the roll settles is the one on the 6.
- 11 units The dice show 6, so the bet the roll pays is the 10 units on the 6, paid 11 to 10: 11 units.
- 21 units That counts the bet itself into the payout. The 10 units on the 6 belonged to the player before the roll, and the payout is only what the dealer adds to the bet.
One roll settles at most one place bet by paying it: the bet in the box whose number the dice show. The payout is the bet times the figure for that number. Once a point is marked, a 7 takes every place bet; on the come-out roll every place bet is off.
Level 1 · The come-out roll
Come-out roll: no point is marked
You are the dealer. What do you pay out on this roll? Count the payout only, not the bet itself.
- Nothing is paid: the dealer takes every place bet Only a 7 takes a place bet, and only once a point is marked. The 6 takes nothing.
- Nothing is paid, and every place bet stays where it is No point is marked, so this is a come-out roll, and on the come-out roll every place bet is off. The 6 pays none of the place bets, and the place bets work again once a point is marked.
- 11 units That pays the bet on the 6 as if the bet were working. On the come-out roll a place bet is off, so the 6 is not paid on this roll; the 6 becomes the point instead.
One roll settles at most one place bet by paying it: the bet in the box whose number the dice show. The payout is the bet times the figure for that number. Once a point is marked, a 7 takes every place bet; on the come-out roll every place bet is off.
Every roll in the practice run is worked out the same way: the bet in the box whose number the dice show is paid at the figure for that number, a 7 after a point takes every place bet, and on the come-out roll the place bets are off.
How the practice run works
Where the rolls come from. Every bet in the practice run is settled by the same dice engine as the rest of the craps track: whether the roll pays a place bet, takes the place bets or leaves them alone, and how much the payout is, are worked out when the page is built rather than written down anywhere by hand. A place bet on the come-out roll is off, as the rule for these tables says. The wrong answers are worked out from the same bets, and each wrong answer is one named mistake: the number paid at the true odds, the figure of a neighbouring pair, the payout of a bet the roll does not touch, the bet counted into the payout.
One strip, and no rounds. Every square on the strip is one roll of this lesson, and all of the squares are there from the start. Your first answer fills the square it belongs to; when the squares are full, the practice is done. Practising a roll you got wrong turns its cross into “fixed in practice” and does not change the count, because only first answers count.
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Check yourself
Mayaformer floor supervisor · manners, money and breaks
Five quick ones. Pick an answer, then check it. No timer, no points: just whether it stuck.
Back to the question we opened with. The 10 units on the 6 is paid 11 to 10, and the dealer pays 11 units.
Where to check this, and further reading
18+ under each province’s rules · Play responsibly · the helplines are further up this page
Further reading
- Reglamento del juego de Craps · Lotería de Córdoba S.E.Córdoba’s craps rules with the pays for every bet, written as percentages of the stake.
- Resolución 1452/12, Anexo I: Craps (Reglamento del Juego) · Instituto Provincial de Lotería y Casinos de la Provincia de Buenos AiresThe Buenos Aires province rulebook with the full pay table and the rules for throwing the dice.
- Información sobre juegos vivos o de paño: juegos carteados (craps) · Instituto Provincial de Juegos y Casinos de Mendoza (SAPIA)Mendoza’s public information on craps: line bets, odds bets and one-roll bets.
How it’s worked out
Rules, numbers, sources and hosts
Where this happens. Every table on this page is a craps table standing in a room you can walk into. An electronic craps table or a screen at home is asked for different things, and what changes there belongs to other lessons.
Rules. The payouts and the rule that a place bet is off on the come-out roll are the rules published by IPLyC for casinos in Buenos Aires Province (Resolución 1452/12, chapter 13: 13.2.5 and 13.3.7). They are a set of rules for the province’s tables, not a statement about any one room. The payout figures for place bets are the same in the Córdoba rules, which write them as percentages (180, 140 and 110 per cent). A Mendoza information page describes place bets in general and puts the 6 and the 8 at seven to six, not at 11 to 10; this page follows the two rule books. The same page describes buy and lay bets with a commission, which neither rule book prints, so they are not on this page.
Numbers. Every payout is worked out from the payout table of those rules: the bet times the figure for its number. The examples use amounts at which the payout comes out in whole units; that is a choice of this page, not a rule we read. Every price is the average share of the bet lost each time the bet is settled, counted from the ways two dice fall. The price of a come bet with odds uses odds up to the size of the come bet, the first ceiling of the Buenos Aires rule book, and the price of the come bet itself is our count, since no document we read prints it. Nothing is typed in by hand, and our checks recompute each figure from the engine rather than reading it back from this page.
What is deliberately absent. There is no pace of play and no price of an hour on this page, and no table minimum on the table: the minimum and the maximum are the casino’s. There are no rules here for a bet that is not a whole number of units, and no buy or lay bets: the two rule books do not print a unit for place bets, or a commission, or a buy or a lay bet, and a Mendoza information page that describes the last two is not a rule book. How much odds a come bet may take is the lesson on the enganche.
Sources. Every payout and every claim on this page carries a button with the sentence it rests on, the publisher who wrote that sentence and the date we read it.
Hosts. Leo and Maya are illustrated characters. Their backstories, a former dealer and a former floor supervisor, are written for the course: neither is a real person, and neither speaks for any casino. The rules and numbers on this page come from the sources it cites, not from their experience.
No promise. Craps is played against the house. Knowing what each place number pays lets you check every payment at the table; nothing on this page makes any place bet free of cost, and nothing here says how an evening at the table would end.
What a place bet is paid
A COLOCAR DE BUENA 4 y 10 Paga el 180% 5 y 9 Paga el 140% 6 y 8 Paga el 110%Free translation: PLACE BETS TO WIN: 4 and 10 Pays 180% 5 and 9 Pays 140% 6 and 8 Pays 110%
Esta apuesta gana con el número del casillero elegido y pierde con el 7 (siete)Free translation: This bet wins with the number of the chosen box and loses with the 7 (seven)
Lotería de Córdoba S.E. (portal) · Reglamento del juego de Craps · read
Puntos 4 o 10 a ganar 9 a 5 180 %Free translation: Points 4 or 10 to win 9 to 5 180 %
Puntos 5 o 9 a ganar 7 a 5 140 %Free translation: Points 5 or 9 to win 7 to 5 140 %
Puntos 6 u 8 a ganar 11 a 10 110 %Free translation: Points 6 or 8 to win 11 to 10 110 %
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
What a place bet is paid
A COLOCAR DE BUENA 4 y 10 Paga el 180% 5 y 9 Paga el 140% 6 y 8 Paga el 110%Free translation: PLACE BETS TO WIN: 4 and 10 Pays 180% 5 and 9 Pays 140% 6 and 8 Pays 110%
Esta apuesta gana con el número del casillero elegido y pierde con el 7 (siete)Free translation: This bet wins with the number of the chosen box and loses with the 7 (seven)
Lotería de Córdoba S.E. (portal) · Reglamento del juego de Craps · read
Puntos 4 o 10 a ganar 9 a 5 180 %Free translation: Points 4 or 10 to win 9 to 5 180 %
Puntos 5 o 9 a ganar 7 a 5 140 %Free translation: Points 5 or 9 to win 7 to 5 140 %
Puntos 6 u 8 a ganar 11 a 10 110 %Free translation: Points 6 or 8 to win 11 to 10 110 %
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
What odds bets are paid
Dicha apuesta complementaria también gana si se obtiene el número antes que un siete, y paga según la verdadera probabilidad de los números: dos a uno si el número es cuatro o diez, tres a dos si es cinco o nueve y seis a cinco si el punto es seis u ocho.Free translation: This complementary bet also wins if the number is obtained before a seven, and pays according to the true probability of the numbers: two to one if the number is four or ten, three to two if it is five or nine, and six to five if the point is six or eight.
Ya que la gabela paga según la probabilidad real, a diferencia de la línea de pase que paga a la par, esta apuesta disminuye la ventaja de la casa.Free translation: Since the odds bet pays according to the true probability, unlike the pass line, which pays even money, this bet lowers the house edge.
A place bet on the come-out roll
Al efectuarse la primera tirada ó iniciación de un nuevo pase, ésta apuesta queda inactivaFree translation: When the first roll is made or a new pass begins, this bet becomes inactive
a menos que el Apostador que haya efectuado la jugada solicitare lo contrarioFree translation: unless the Bettor who made the play requests otherwise
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
What a place bet is
Puntos 4 o 10 a ganar 9 a 5 180 %Free translation: Points 4 or 10 to win 9 to 5 180 %
Puntos 5 o 9 a ganar 7 a 5 140 %Free translation: Points 5 or 9 to win 7 to 5 140 %
Puntos 6 u 8 a ganar 11 a 10 110 %Free translation: Points 6 or 8 to win 11 to 10 110 %
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
A COLOCAR DE BUENA 4 y 10 Paga el 180% 5 y 9 Paga el 140% 6 y 8 Paga el 110%Free translation: PLACE BETS TO WIN: 4 and 10 Pays 180% 5 and 9 Pays 140% 6 and 8 Pays 110%
Esta apuesta gana con el número del casillero elegido y pierde con el 7 (siete)Free translation: This bet wins with the number of the chosen box and loses with the 7 (seven)
Lotería de Córdoba S.E. (portal) · Reglamento del juego de Craps · read
Apuesta en sitio o Place bet.- Esta apuesta se puede realizar a los números cuatro, cinco, seis, ocho, nueve y diez (en los que se puede establecer el «punto») y pagan un poco menos que la probabilidad real: nueve a cinco en cuatro y diez, siete a cinco en cinco y nueve y siete a seis en seis y ocho.Free translation: Place bet.- This bet can be made on the numbers four, five, six, eight, nine and ten (on which the "point" can be established) and pays slightly less than the true probability: nine to five on four and ten, seven to five on five and nine, and seven to six on six and eight.
What a place bet is paid
A COLOCAR DE BUENA 4 y 10 Paga el 180% 5 y 9 Paga el 140% 6 y 8 Paga el 110%Free translation: PLACE BETS TO WIN: 4 and 10 Pays 180% 5 and 9 Pays 140% 6 and 8 Pays 110%
Esta apuesta gana con el número del casillero elegido y pierde con el 7 (siete)Free translation: This bet wins with the number of the chosen box and loses with the 7 (seven)
Lotería de Córdoba S.E. (portal) · Reglamento del juego de Craps · read
Puntos 4 o 10 a ganar 9 a 5 180 %Free translation: Points 4 or 10 to win 9 to 5 180 %
Puntos 5 o 9 a ganar 7 a 5 140 %Free translation: Points 5 or 9 to win 7 to 5 140 %
Puntos 6 u 8 a ganar 11 a 10 110 %Free translation: Points 6 or 8 to win 11 to 10 110 %
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
Who may bet what
Le está permitido apostar a cualquiera de las variantes que tiene el juego; por él mismo podrá hacerlo a las siguientes: Buena, Mala, A Resultado, No resultado y Field. Las demás variantes del juego deberán ser canalizadas a través de los Pagadores.Free translation: He is permitted to bet on any of the variants the game has; by himself he may do so on the following: Buena, Mala, A Resultado, No resultado and Field. The other variants of the game must be channeled through the Pagadores.
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
Place bets in three sources
Puntos 4 o 10 a ganar 9 a 5 180 %Free translation: Points 4 or 10 to win 9 to 5 180 %
Puntos 5 o 9 a ganar 7 a 5 140 %Free translation: Points 5 or 9 to win 7 to 5 140 %
Puntos 6 u 8 a ganar 11 a 10 110 %Free translation: Points 6 or 8 to win 11 to 10 110 %
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
A COLOCAR DE BUENA 4 y 10 Paga el 180% 5 y 9 Paga el 140% 6 y 8 Paga el 110%Free translation: PLACE BETS TO WIN: 4 and 10 Pays 180% 5 and 9 Pays 140% 6 and 8 Pays 110%
Esta apuesta gana con el número del casillero elegido y pierde con el 7 (siete)Free translation: This bet wins with the number of the chosen box and loses with the 7 (seven)
Lotería de Córdoba S.E. (portal) · Reglamento del juego de Craps · read
Apuesta en sitio o Place bet.- Esta apuesta se puede realizar a los números cuatro, cinco, seis, ocho, nueve y diez (en los que se puede establecer el «punto») y pagan un poco menos que la probabilidad real: nueve a cinco en cuatro y diez, siete a cinco en cinco y nueve y siete a seis en seis y ocho.Free translation: Place bet.- This bet can be made on the numbers four, five, six, eight, nine and ten (on which the "point" can be established) and pays slightly less than the true probability: nine to five on four and ten, seven to five on five and nine, and seven to six on six and eight.
A place bet on the come-out roll
Al efectuarse la primera tirada ó iniciación de un nuevo pase, ésta apuesta queda inactivaFree translation: When the first roll is made or a new pass begins, this bet becomes inactive
a menos que el Apostador que haya efectuado la jugada solicitare lo contrarioFree translation: unless the Bettor who made the play requests otherwise
Section Capítulo 13, Craps: Reglamento del Juego (13.1 a 13.8)
What odds bets are paid
Dicha apuesta complementaria también gana si se obtiene el número antes que un siete, y paga según la verdadera probabilidad de los números: dos a uno si el número es cuatro o diez, tres a dos si es cinco o nueve y seis a cinco si el punto es seis u ocho.Free translation: This complementary bet also wins if the number is obtained before a seven, and pays according to the true probability of the numbers: two to one if the number is four or ten, three to two if it is five or nine, and six to five if the point is six or eight.
Ya que la gabela paga según la probabilidad real, a diferencia de la línea de pase que paga a la par, esta apuesta disminuye la ventaja de la casa.Free translation: Since the odds bet pays according to the true probability, unlike the pass line, which pays even money, this bet lowers the house edge.